{"id":1010,"date":"2012-09-06T15:41:05","date_gmt":"2012-09-06T19:41:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mapsurfer.com\/blog\/?p=1010"},"modified":"2012-09-06T15:46:16","modified_gmt":"2012-09-06T19:46:16","slug":"dilemma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/archives\/1010","title":{"rendered":"Dilemma"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As I alluded to in yesterday&#8217;s post, I have an interesting post to push that one off the top of the blog, but first a bit of housekeeping.\u00a0 As I suggested yesterday, its RIP for the &#8220;stories&#8221;.\u00a0 Its been fun, and they have totally served their purpose over the past 6 months (more than you could know, &#8220;you&#8221; of course, requiring a semiosis with the reader (OK, they are really dead now :))), but its &#8220;Adieu, Adieu&#8221; (and those who really get my blog get it).<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, if you want to actually read a good metal detecting blog, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pocketspill.com\/\">read Pocketspill<\/a>. I do. He&#8217;s a smart guy.\u00a0 You&#8217;ll learn alot more there then here, unless, of course, your area of interest is semiotics or economics (not to disparage Pocketspill&#8217;s expertise in those disciplines, of course).\u00a0 But, I think we all want to learn more about metal detecting, which is easier than the former, and harder than the latter.<\/p>\n<p>So, onto the Dilemma.\u00a0 This stuff is good .\u00a0 Economists love thinking about this stuff (otherwise they would be idiots for becoming economists, wouldn&#8217;t they?).\u00a0 Some write Ph D theses on stuff like this.\u00a0 The following is a real story from the metal detecting world (and you may have seen it on the forums; if not, maybe you will find this interesting).<\/p>\n<p>This is a thought experiment.\u00a0 The exercise here, after reading the story, is to describe how <em>you<\/em> would have acted were <em>you<\/em> in the principal actor&#8217;s shoes, and, most importantly, <em>why? <\/em>It is <em>not<\/em> an exercise in judgment of the\u00a0principal actor. (Economists observe and predict the actions of actors; they do not judge them).<\/p>\n<p>First, a bit of background for my non-metal detecting readers (of which, surprisingly, there are several).\u00a0 Metal detecting people can skip this.\u00a0 Silver quarters were minted in and before 1964.\u00a0 They look very similar to non-silver quarters (1965+) to many, but are worth about 20x as much.\u00a0 That is, while 4 modern quarters are worth $1, four similarly looking silver quarters are worth about $20.\u00a0 Here is the difference in appearance &#8212;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/090612.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1011\" title=\"090612\" src=\"http:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/090612.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"413\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/090612.jpg 413w, https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/090612-300x172.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 413px) 100vw, 413px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>You also need to know that &#8220;coinstar machines&#8221;, those machines in the supermarket that turn jars of change into dollar bills, and change a 9.8% &#8220;convenience fee&#8221; for doing so, clearly state that they do not accept silver coins (and, for non Mid-Atlantic readers of the following story, &#8220;mac&#8221; means &#8220;ATM machine&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>So, here is the story, in the words of the principal actor &#8212;<\/p>\n<p><em>So I went to the supermarket this evening to get some ground beef for chili. I came home and realized i bought the wrong beef. What I bought was a mixture for meatloaf. All ticked off I went back to the supermarket. Went and got what I needed and proceeded to check out. There was a girl about 25 years old at the coin star. I &#8220;heard&#8221; all of her change getting rejected. She got in line behind me and I looked at her zip lock bag full of coins. I said to her since the coinstart takes about 10% from the total, I will tap mac and give her total face value. Well we sat there counting them out. My hands were shaking as I was doing that. I promptly gave her $70 even for 280 quarters&#8230;SILVER QUARTERS THAT IS!!!<img title=\"Shocked\" src=\"http:\/\/metaldetectingforum.com\/images\/smilies\/shocked.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><img title=\"Shocked\" src=\"http:\/\/metaldetectingforum.com\/images\/smilies\/shocked.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><img title=\"Shocked\" src=\"http:\/\/metaldetectingforum.com\/images\/smilies\/shocked.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/> She needed the cash to do food shopping. Wow I am so glad I picked up the wrong beef!!! I truly believe that saying now that things happen for a reason.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> I know some are going to say I ripped her off. Well I look at it as if the coin star took the silver quarters then she would have gotten about $62 back. I gave her the full amount for them. If she knew what they were she didnt care&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> They are all Washingtons. No real key dates. One 1950 D that might be a D over S. Either way that is $1453 in melt value <img title=\"Shocked\" src=\"http:\/\/metaldetectingforum.com\/images\/smilies\/shocked.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><img title=\"Shocked\" src=\"http:\/\/metaldetectingforum.com\/images\/smilies\/shocked.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/>. I am still so stoked. What an awesome evening!!!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So, to reiterate the thought experiment, the question is, what would you have done, and why?\u00a0 E-mail me.\u00a0 (Comments still don&#8217;t work; not that I&#8217;m not interested in hearing them, its just that if I turn them on, I get 300 spams a day, and this is my work e-mail, and I can&#8217;t suffer that.\u00a0 Moreover, I&#8217;ve passed my days of fighting bad software, been there, done that for 20+ years.\u00a0 Maybe someday comments will be fixed; that day won&#8217;t be today).<\/p>\n<p>BTW, you can google the PA&#8217;s story and find the 1000 post thread on another forum if you want to.\u00a0 You may even find my inane responses. That would be cheating.\u00a0 If you do that, don&#8217;t respond; I&#8217;m interested in unaffected responses.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll write how I would have acted next week (and may even include some economics, both mainstream and alternative theory, but this is a metal detecting blog, after all, so don&#8217;t bet on it), if I remember to.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As I alluded to in yesterday&#8217;s post, I have an interesting post to push that one off the top of the blog, but first a bit of housekeeping.\u00a0 As I suggested yesterday, its RIP for the &#8220;stories&#8221;.\u00a0 Its been fun, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/archives\/1010\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[3],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1010"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1010"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1010\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1014,"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1010\/revisions\/1014"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1010"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1010"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.puzzlemaze.org\/df\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1010"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}